Thank you again to each of you for taking the time to be with us here today and for taking the time to prepare such helpful opening statements. I realize that it's not an easy process to have to think through that again and to have to share your story and its impact here again, so thank you.
My first question is going to be for Ms. Penner.
In your opening remarks, you made a comment with regard to this transfer taking place without proper notice being given. Then you commented on the government being confronted about this transfer, and the minister at the time denying knowing. You went on to explain that he really did know, so he tried to mislead the public, which is altogether wrong and certainly has consequences.
I'm wondering if you would be able to talk a little bit about the personal consequences it has for you when someone in a public role professes that he doesn't know, but then it comes out that he did. What impact does it have on you to have someone in a position of trust lie about that?