Evidence of meeting #96 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vehicles.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Terri O'Brien  President and Chief Executive Officer, Équité Association
Shawn Vording  Vice-President, Product and Sales, CARFAX Canada
Celyeste Power  President and Chief Executive Officer, Insurance Bureau of Canada
Chief Nick Milinovich  Deputy Chief of Police, Peel Regional Police
Chief Robert Johnson  Deputy Chief of Police, Toronto Police Service
Mark Weber  National President, Customs and Immigration Union

5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC

Thank you.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Michaud.

Mr. Garrison.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Thanks very much, Mr. Chair.

I'm going to try to get in two quick questions.

Mr. Weber, when you were just asked about no cuts since 2015, can you talk about the increase in the number of travellers and traffic through the ports in that time? That makes it sound like it's a good thing that things didn't go down, but there was a lot more volume. That would be my understanding.

February 26th, 2024 / 5:30 p.m.

National President, Customs and Immigration Union

Mark Weber

I don't have exact numbers available. We could get those for you.

Things are definitely getting busier. Anecdotally, I hear that from officers. As the numbers go down, obviously, the lineups get longer. We all saw what went on during the pandemic and what happened with ArriveCAN with some of the lineups at certain times of the year. You're arriving at major airports, and you're waiting an hour or two to get through customs.

Again, what does that do to our officers? As was mentioned earlier, they are dedicated, they want to do a good job and they want to protect Canada. That's why they get into this. For them to do that, under the circumstances they're currently working under with those short staffing levels, it is often really devastating for them to not be able to really do the job they were hired to do.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Thanks very much.

I'll try to squeeze in one here to the Peel Regional Police.

It seems to me that manufacturers ought to be able to do more with anti-theft devices. My partner took my car after dropping me off at the airport, and the car emailed me that it was at McDonald's in Saanich a half an hour later.

If the car can do that, which I don't really want it to do, can manufacturers do more with anti-theft devices and tracking to assist the police?

5:30 p.m.

D/Chief Nick Milinovich

Yes, definitely. This is why this is so important. While I've been more highly focused on a few key points here, I want to provide reassurance to everybody on the committee that we understand that everybody has their role to play, including industry stakeholders. Absolutely, they should be considering the gaps and the faults in their security systems and addressing them.

We have working groups, and we are sharing the most recent theft trends we are seeing with industry. However, it has to be one of those continuous improvement pieces, because the criminal element is learning quickly.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Thank you.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Thank you, Mr. Garrison.

Thank you to the witnesses. Believe us, we appreciate everything you do.

The meeting is adjourned.