Evidence of meeting #99 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Simon Larouche
Andre Arbour  Director General, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

8:05 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

(Clause 7 allowed to stand)

We'll carry on with clause 8.

Shall it carry?

(Clause 8 agreed to)

(Clause 9 agreed to)

(On clause 10)

Next is CPC-18.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I'll move this amendment.

This is very similar. Can we park this one too?

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Mr. Chair, I would suggest that we have the debate about....

If you withdraw CPC-18, we can have the debate on clause 10 to essentially delete clause 10. It would essentially do the same thing but more cleanly.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I got a thumbs-up. We will withdraw it.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Okay, so may I speak to clause 10?

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Are we parking or withdrawing CPC-18?

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

We withdrew it.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Shall clause 10 carry?

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

No, wait. We want to amend it.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Okay. I'm sorry.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Before I get into this, I just want to make sure with officials that I understand it correctly so I can move the correct amendment.

Essentially, as Mr. Arbour just stated, clause 10 creates an exception in the Telecommunications Act. What we are doing is just removing the wording that creates that exception, which in turn would allow for due diligence.

This amendment proposes the addition of “other than”.... Hold on. Let me just make sure that I have the right text here.

I'm sorry. Mr. Arbour, I want to remove “other than a violation under section 72.131”. Is that the exception that you feel would allow for due diligence if deleted?

8:05 p.m.

Director General, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector, Department of Industry

Andre Arbour

If it's the committee's intent to ensure that due diligence applies, clause 10 is not needed at all.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Thank you.

It's the entire clause, then. I propose that we vote against clause 10, which would remove the exemption that takes away the ability for due diligence. I just want to make sure that we're doing it as cleanly as possible.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Shall clause 10 carry?

(Clause 10 negatived)

(On clause 7)

We're going back to clause 7.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

We'll withdraw CPC-17.

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Thank you.

CPC-17 is withdrawn, and BQ-11 is withdrawn.

Shall clause 7 carry?

(Clause 7 agreed to on division)

Clauses 8 and 9 were carried.

Shall clause 11 carry?

(Clause 11 agreed to on division)

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

This is the end of part 1, I believe, so it would be a good time to break.

8:10 p.m.

Conservative

Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

Bang that gavel, Chair.

8:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald

Okay. The meeting is adjourned.