That's one of the critical questions.
You asked Dr. Lackenbauer what he saw as one of the major threats. When I listened to the head of CSIS just recently make his comments in terms of the infiltration that we are in fact seeing in the north, he specifically named some of the concerns he had with both Russia and China. This is one of the problems we face in really coming to terms with how bad or how understated this threat is. We, on the outside, don't have access to the actual information. In other words, the head of CSIS has a much better understanding in terms of what's actually happening.
When he made his comments—last week, I believe—he publicly talked about the involvement of foreign states. Then I think back to what the Hogue report said in terms of the efforts at political interference. Joining those two dots together suggests, to me at least, that we are seeing increasing activity on the part of our adversaries. To what degree are we seeing that? Unfortunately, I can't answer your question. I just don't have access to that level of knowledge.