Evidence of meeting #35 for Public Safety and National Security in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was visa.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Gary Anandasangaree  Minister of Public Safety
Lena Metlege Diab  Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Gallivan  Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
O'Gorman  President, Canada Border Services Agency

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

We work closely with our colleagues at the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, as well as with our local and international partners. We have lists, not just for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, but also for Public Safety Canada and for the officials here.

Alexis Deschênes Bloc Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj, QC

Mr. Anandasangaree, what's going on with our lists?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Thank you for the question.

Which list are you referring to, specifically?

Alexis Deschênes Bloc Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj, QC

I'm talking about the IRGC list. That's the discussion topic.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We'll have to wait for the next round to get the answer to that question.

Before that, Mr. Lloyd, you have the floor for five minutes.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the ministers and witnesses for being here.

Minister Diab, was the individual in question related to this case issued a temporary resident visa or a temporary resident permit?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Let me be clear.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

It's a simple question.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Yes, absolutely, for sure.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Was it a temporary resident visa or a temporary resident permit?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

As I said, I cannot comment on the individual person in question—

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

This is a very simple question.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

—but no IRGC member has been admitted to Canada.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Was it a temporary resident visa or a temporary resident permit?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

I believe I've already responded to that.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Why can't you answer the question, Minister?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

As we said, we cannot comment on the specific case in question. What is important is that—

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

For the benefit of the Canadians who are listening—

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

—the individual did not come into Canada.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

I have the floor. Thank you, Minister.

For the benefit of the Canadians who are listening, a temporary resident visa is required for any Iranian citizen to enter Canada. Many do on a daily basis. A temporary resident permit is required for anyone who is found inadmissible to come to Canada for criminal reasons or other reasons.

According to the Raoul Wallenberg Centre, this individual was an IRGC intelligence commander from 1979 onwards. I find it interesting that Liberal members said he was an alleged IRGC member. It's been well reported that he was an intelligence commander in the IRGC. He would have had to be issued a temporary resident permit. That is a special permit from your department.

Minister, did your department know that this person was inadmissible to Canada before you issued a permit?

4 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Again, I'm not going to comment on an individual case, for privacy reasons. What I will say is that the individual had no status to come into Canada by the time they landed. They left. They are back in their own country.

We are very much looking forward to learning what happened in this case to ensure it does not happen in the FIFA games, which are happening in the months of June and July.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Minister, I worked for the immigration department when Jason Kenney was the minister. In cases where you have high-profile people coming into this country.... We're talking about FIFA here and an official with IRGC connections, while there's currently a very real war going on in Iran. Somebody with this high a profile coming into this country with known IRGC connections had to have been issued a temporary resident permit.

Are you saying, Minister, that you received no memo and that you were not involved in the decision at all to let this inadmissible person enter Canada?

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

These decisions are not political.

I, as the minister, am a political person. It would not be something that I—

Dane Lloyd Conservative Parkland, AB

Are you saying you're not accountable, Minister?

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

I'm definitely accountable, but I would not have been part of that decision-making process.