Yes, I think that this bill is actually much more technical than Bill C-8 because, with Bill C-8, we could understand what different components meant. I think we'll have a witness in the next round who actually talks about what metadata is.
We actually haven't gotten into the technical aspects of this. We have largely heard from people like you—people from Google, people from Apple—about their concerns, but we haven't even had time to delve into the technical aspects as to what this encryption means. Is that with respect to all aspects? Is it end-to-end encryption? I'm not an expert on these things, and we haven't heard about that data or about that analysis from experts. I'm quite concerned.
Mr. Neuenschwander and Ms. Patell, you can weigh in on this. The minister was equivocal when I asked about encryption. Even though we as Conservatives will be putting forward amendments that will clearly say that encryption will be offside when this bill is studied clause by clause, are you still concerned with respect to this bill touching encrypted technology?