This is interesting to me. We're going to be getting into the reasonable grounds to suspect and reasonable grounds to believe. If I've understood what you're saying, this all comes down to basically taking this down to the lower threshold of reasonable grounds to suspect for a certain class or a certain amount of information.
I'm sorry. I know Mr. Housefather was talking about just getting to it.
The whole reasonable grounds to suspect and reasonable grounds to believe discussion is going to occupy a fair amount of time of my questioning. I'll tell you that right now.
I know what reasonable grounds to believe is. In my view, reasonable grounds to believe is that you personally believe something—which is the subject of the nature of the belief as a police officer—and that belief is objectively reasonable. A reasonable person would also say that you have a basis on which to believe it.
Do you agree? It's been a while for me.
Okay. Can somebody help me? What does reasonable grounds to suspect mean legally?
I just laid out the legal test for reasonable grounds to believe. I don't know what it is for reasonable grounds to suspect. Can someone help us there?