I wouldn't want to speculate on his specific motivations.
To circle back to Ms. DeBellefeuille's framing earlier, which I think was helpful, I think that reasonable people coming from different perspectives could try to strike the balance between privacy and security in different ways, and I think we're all trying to do that and get it right.
I might add one line from our perspective. I take her point that we're intelligence and that we're law enforcement on this side of the table, so we stand where we sit and we come with a specific perspective. At the same time, we're actually deeply motivated by striking that balance. We might strike it in a bit of a different way, but we certainly appreciate the criticality of both ends of that.
If I were speculating on my own stuff—so maybe not on Mr. Dufresne's perspective—I would say that I think Canadians would be quite worried if they understood the challenges that law enforcement and intelligence have in carrying out the bread-and-butter protection of national security and the prosecution of crime in this country. To be able to do that work, we're trying to modernize in a responsible way by striking a slightly different balance, which I think has gone out of whack because legislation has been difficult to modernize, to be really frank with you.
That's how I would answer.
I'll pass it to Norm or Rick.