Evidence of meeting #42 for Public Safety and National Security in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was information.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Bilodeau  Acting Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Burchill  Director General, Technical Investigation Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Nashef  Director General, Policy, Planning and Accountability, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Wong  Acting General Counsel, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Gibner  Deputy Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Sector, Department of Justice
Gilkes  Acting Officer-in-Charge, RCMP Lawful Access, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Hiegel  Director General, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Claude DeBellefeuille Bloc Beauharnois—Salaberry—Soulanges—Huntingdon, QC

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This amendment is also a recommendation from the Privacy Commissioner. He wants to prevent service providers from being forced to disclose much more subscriber information than is necessary for investigative purposes.

Here again, the goal is to allow for the collection of a certain amount of information, while maintaining a certain level of restriction. I think that this amendment is reasonable. I hope that my colleagues will support it.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Thank you, Mrs. DeBellefeuille.

Before giving the floor to Mr. Housefather, I would like to point out that, since amendment BQ‑4 was moved, amendment CPC‑3 can't be moved because the two amendments are identical.

Mr. Housefather, you have the floor.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to thank Mrs. DeBellefeuille.

I would like to move a subamendment to amendment BQ‑4. It should be in everyone's inbox. I'll read it.

First, I move that amendment BQ‑4 proposing to amend clause 6 of Bill C‑22 be amended by substituting, for the reference “replacing lines 21 to 23” in the opening portion, the reference “replacing lines 21 to 24”;

I also move that amendment BQ‑4 by amended by substituting the following for the text proposed by the motion:

produce a document containing the subscriber information referred to in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) of the definition subscriber information in section 487.011 (a) that is specified by the justice or judge in the order; (b) that relates to any information, including transmission data, that is specified in the order; and (c) that is in the person's possession or control when they receive the order.

Mr. Chair, I just want to make sure that all my colleagues have a copy of the subamendment before I start explaining it.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Has everyone been able to access Mr. Housefather's proposed subamendment, which was reportedly sent by the clerk five or six minutes ago?

If you have access to your emails, you should be able to see it.

Mr. Mantle, you have the floor.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I've just received it in my inbox. Can we have two minutes to read it in English?

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

MP Housefather.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Mr. Mantle asked for a few minutes.

A voice

It would be five minutes for me.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

Okay. We can do that.

We can give you five minutes.

While we do that, MP Housefather, would you like to expand further on the subamendment?

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I could do that, Mr. Chair. However, I think that the members would like to read the subamendment quietly. So, if this works for you, we could give them two minutes, then I can explain it.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We'll suspend the meeting for two minutes to give everyone time to read the subamendment carefully.

The Chair Liberal Jean-Yves Duclos

We'll resume the meeting, but only for a few moments.

Given the time, the limited resources, the complexity of the proposed subamendment and the fact that some people need more time to fully understand it, we'll adjourn the meeting. We'll meet again on Thursday to discuss the subamendment.

Thank you. Good evening.