The NSICOP report you referenced—what we refer to as the “going dark” report—has a number of findings on lawful access and the need for lawful access. As you heard today from some of the witnesses, it is difficult to track because the RCMP and the police of jurisdiction have some of these requests.
I think it goes without saying that if we were able to track every single instance when our law enforcement tried to get information, it would be helpful. Obviously, NSICOP found that law enforcement and CSIS didn't do that.
I'm not sure what else we can say. We can rely, however, on the experience that CSIS and the RCMP have had over the years, what they've shared with us and what they shared with NSICOP. The information that was shared with NSICOP still led NSICOP to conclude that lawful access reform was necessary.
