I'll start the answer to that question, if it assists the committee, with a reminder that I think one of our undertakings was to provide a comparison chart. I don't know whether you have that, sir, but it looked at some of the Five Eyes to try to set out for you a comparison of both the confirmation of service demand and the subscriber production order.
You might recall that the other countries do not have judicial authorization, so there's no judicial oversight, generally speaking. There's no comparator. They don't need to set out that standard to a judge or a justice. It would simply be either the agency itself or the police officer themselves making those demands.
Again, as a reminder, if we take a step further back in time, pre Spencer, that was the world we lived in. Officers would go to service providers and ask for and receive that information. That's what's happening with the Five Eyes. Now, post Spencer, police have been asking for that authority.
What we've put before you is that new tool to make sure that there is judicial oversight for those sorts of orders. That's why we're talking about standards, but it doesn't exist; there's no real comparator internationally, because it's not required by the Five Eyes countries.
