On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I have been attending committee meetings for over 10 years. Generally, in these meetings, ministers do arrive with their officials in the event that they want to provide additional details. I don't quite understand why Mr. Caputo, right off the bat said that the minister isn't allowed to consult with them to provide further details. That is the norm around here. That is the procedure around here.
I would ask Mr. Caputo to provide the minister the opportunity, if need be, to consult with his officials who have taken the time to be here with us today.