Yes, I would quickly give two answers to that.
The first is that I don't think you can get away from having some kind of broad, open engagement, whatever it may be. I started out as a young researcher in forest policy at the time of clear-cutting controversies—as you can probably tell, that was a very long time ago—and at that time, they used to call those public meetings “the last of the blood sports” and we have to get away from that. I think it should be possible, for example, to engage academic researchers, engage universities, engage others who have professional experience in public engagement to do more detailed, more small group.... We've worked with the Fedoruk centre developing citizen jury processes for testing out ideas about different kinds of energy, and they've been, I think, very successful. They're time-consuming, they're expensive, but I think we have to think outside the box about how we'll do that kind of engagement.