Science and Research Committee on Oct. 31st, 2022

[Chad Collins, Liberal, Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON]

Can I ask, through you, Madam Chair, to the clerk, when our last meeting is on this one tonight, on the French research study?

[The Clerk]

We have it scheduled for our next meeting, November 14.

[Chad Collins, Liberal, Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON]

Okay. Our next meeting after that is the 21st. Is that too late? It falls within the time frame that Maxime suggested in terms of the month of November. If we did the 21st, we're getting out of this one and into the new one. What's the minister's availability on that day? Can he make the 21st? I don't know his schedule. It's anyone's guess at this point.

I think that's the easiest path forward in terms of accommodating both studies. If the minister is in on the 21st, we're not leaving it too late. We're out of this by a couple of weeks. We're there at the first meeting after this study concludes, and we're on the first day for the next study.

I don't think the 21st is unreasonable in terms of that being the committee's request.

[The Clerk]

I'll add quickly that we will likely have a first panel of witnesses for the moon shot study on the 14th in the last hour. That's as it's currently set. That can be changed, of course.

[Chad Collins, Liberal, Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON]

Okay. Thank you for that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you, Mr. Collins. Thank you to our clerk.

Is there any further discussion?

[Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

Yes, Madam Chair.

I just want to make sure we will have the Minister with us for two hours, the first on research and scientific publication in French and the second on the ambitious international programs.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you, Mr. Blanchette-Joncas.

Is there further discussion from our committee?

Is there agreement for what we heard from Monsieur Blanchette-Joncas, or does this need to be put to a vote?

[Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

It's fine, Madam Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Is there agreement from the committee?

I see some nodding.

(Amendment agreed to)

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Mr. Lauzon, do you have your hand up?

[Stéphane Lauzon, Liberal, Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC]

This time, it is a real hand.

[Stéphane Lauzon, Liberal, Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC]

Could we amend the motion we are considering to make sure we are all voting on the same text? I would appreciate it.

We could maybe ask the clerk to change the wording of the motion so it says we invite the Minister to appear as part of the next study, but concerning both studies, with one hour per study.

[The Clerk]

That could be moved as a formal amendment. I hesitate to make any of my own changes in the wording without having it submitted to me in writing because that would be a formal motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

We've heard from Mr. Lauzon. Is there agreement from the committee?

[The Clerk]

I just want to make sure that we're clear whether Mr. Lauzon is moving an amendment or not to that, and whether it needs to be discussed.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Mr. Lauzon, could you please repeat what you have brought forward so the committee understands exactly what is being brought forward?

[Stéphane Lauzon, Liberal, Argenteuil—La Petite-Nation, QC]

Right.

The motion should state that the committee again invites the François-Philippe Champagne, the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, to testify for one hour as part of the study on research and scientific publication in French, with the hour after that devoted to the next study.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you, Mr. Lauzon.

Is everyone on the committee clear on this?

[Maxime Blanchette-Joncas, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

Madam Chair, I think we should add "on or after November 21" as Mr. Collins said earlier.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Mr. Blanchette-Joncas, we have to check with the clerk. I believe invitations have gone out for the second study.

[The Clerk]

Invitations have gone out but whatever the committee decides in the motion is doable. If it's adopted we'll move things around.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you, Mr. Clerk.

Would you like to read back what the committee is considering and we'll see if they're comfortable with it, please?

[The Clerk]

I'm doing my best to change it into.... I'll read it in English. It is that the committee invite the Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, François-Philippe Champagne, to testify as part of the study on research and scientific publication in French for one hour, during one of the meetings of the committee to be held in the month of November, and then for another hour on the international moon-shot programs.

[The Chair, Liberal, Kirsty Duncan]

Thank you so much to our clerk.

Does the committee understand what's being brought forward?

We'll look for agreement amongst the committee.

Is there further discussion?