I think there are a lot of opportunities there.
We're lucky, I'll say, in Canada—in Quebec, in my case. There is a lot of interest in science, how science is built, from our citizens. Compared to some other countries, there is a lot of interest, so it's a matter of connecting, making connections with them, of academics in universities, in colleges and in the private sector linking with citizens and asking them what they think. Often, they have great suggestions, great ideas. We get a lot of projects. Every time we have a project competition in environment, in health, in arts and culture....
They say, for example, “There's a lot of blue algae in the lake. We did not used to see that. Why is that? Can we work with scientists on that?” Then citizen scientists, they do the project like that. In Montreal, women on the street, homeless women, started a research project to try to help these women so that they could get back to a bit more of a normal life.
I think there are a lot of opportunities. The key, for me, is to treat them as equals. It's not someone like me with a Ph.D. above them and they work, in a sense, for me. No, they are really equal, codesigners of the project. That's very critical.