I think your observations are extremely important. We need to look at these countries in terms of what they invest in basic research, how they facilitate the translation of research into innovative products and also the makeup of their economy where they have many more companies that are actually in the private sector that do research in those countries.
When I last looked at South Korea, their investment in research is absolutely incredible and the slope that keeps going up. There's also the whole supportive culture, because you have the LGs and the Samsungs, and they can collaborate and help basic researchers in institutions and so on.
I think for us, we need to create this environment. Yes, we do need to have high ambitions. We need to decide that we are going to have our own moonshot projects based on our needs, our capacities, our competitive advantage, and go after it in a determined and systematic way.