Not to worry. I will follow up on the question that Mr. Lobb was expressing.
I want to begin by reaffirming something so that we all have some clarity. I think all of us around this room want to see us succeed in grants, research and investment. We want our talent to be homegrown and stay here. We want the commercialization of some of the work that's been produced to stay home as well, because we're at risk there.
You've cited some of the issues that need to be corrected to ensure we are setting ourselves in the right direction. To your point, we're talking beyond election cycles here. We're not talking about any particular government per se. We're talking about what is in the best interests of Canada in the future. We're talking about enabling ourselves to put our infrastructure in place so we can continue to succeed, because there has been success.
Notwithstanding that everything seems to be broken on the other side, it's not. Things have been going well, but we can do much better. I want us to talk about what has been going well.
To follow up on Mr. Lobb's question, there is private sector engagement, not just in Canada but around the world. You cited some GDP numbers relative to what the grants could be, but what is the private sector's engagement in the United States, for example, or in the U.K. or Australia, and how is that facilitating some of the needs we have?
We'll hear from Mr. Davidson and then we'll go to Mr. Normand.