Certainly, our applied research survey includes a look at research infrastructure, and I think you're exactly right. This is one of the really important dimensions of the locally embedded applied research hubs within communities. Our small and medium-sized enterprises—you cited what's going on at Durham College and it's a great example—are coming to use these facilities. They're coming to be part of defining a problem and then working with a local college or polytechnic to address it. I've been visiting many of my member campuses over the last couple of months and have certainly come to understand how much they are trying to leverage these facilities for other uses by their SME partners.
These facilities continue to need upgrades. They continue to need ongoing maintenance, and this is where some of the challenge is. Again, it goes back to the sort of limited opportunities for them through the CFI program, for example. It's only $15 million. It's a small program for research infrastructure. We are of the view, as we've said throughout this session, that the maturity of the sector demands a reimagining of the programs, because there is need.
I would say as well that the opportunity to leverage some of the other infrastructure programs that exist through, say, the strategic innovation fund and others through ISED.... They are not proving themselves to be very open to post-secondary eligibility, and that's also a challenge.