That specific example is obviously housed in business dynamics for that firm. I don't know if it fits into the exact rubric of what we're describing.
Where I would say we're really struggling as a country is with the public policies required to help firms scale and grow. We're really good in this country at what I call the invention of R and D. Where we really lack is on the innovation side. When we're looking at public policies to advance the actual investments into R and D, we have to figure out why they're struggling to commercialize.
For the example you're giving, I don't know all the details about it. That's really more of the framing that I would bring forward.