I can, for sure. Where are there opportunities for us to help scale domestic firms here in Canada? One of the big levers that we look at is obviously around things like procurement. The government's buying of domestic solutions leads to the establishment of firms and adds strength and opportunity. They can do that and go out and get investments from those purchase orders.
When we look at how we're spending, let's say, our procurement dollars, are we actually procuring domestic solutions that are IP-generated and owned?
An example I'll very quickly give you, which is pretty analogous to this, is the Over the Horizon system that we committed to purchasing from Australia. Roughly $4 billion or $6 billion is where it all ends up. However, it turns out that there are two firms here in Ottawa that have been funded to the tune of $30 million in R and D that weren't even brought into that process and that actually solved that exact problem.
Here is a situation where we have the Canadian government funding the R and D and support of a firm headquartered here, but then turning around with the other hand to buy technology and solutions that end up supporting Australia or an Australian company.