That's great.
My next question is for Dr. Hepburn.
You started to touch on having a better system for IP. I'm sure Geosyntec has had this as well: You're working with a university and you retain non-exclusive rights to reproduce or use information for non-commercial purposes. It's very difficult to commercialize. There's a huge amount of overhead going into the university sector. Interestingly, we're learning more that colleges and polytechnics don't do that and the IP remains with the business that's coming in.
What are your ideas about transforming the way we handle IP in universities? I'll also note that the number of patents happening in universities is quite low because it's not really a criteria for success. It's publish or perish, and commercialization isn't necessarily rewarded as much.
What are your thoughts about IP and transforming it so we have better commercialization?