Through you, Madam Chair, we do have them at Ontario Tech. They are funded out of our operating budget because there isn't currently a funding mechanism for them.
To go into a little bit of detail about them, as I said, these are individuals who have worked in the private sector. For instance, it won't surprise anybody that, coming from Oshawa, we have an automotive engineering program, so we certainly have employed one who worked heavily with GM and also spent time in the academic sector. They have an incredible ability to identify what's happening in the lab and translate that into what's happening in industry.
The challenge we face is that these individuals are desired globally, and I've lost a couple of them to big universities in the U.S. For us to keep them, we need to keep them high on the innovation agenda.
There are all sorts of opportunities. I never lose an opportunity if somebody is about to retire and they're thinking they'd still like to be involved, they can also be a great commercialization officer. There are all sorts of ways as we look at our demographic crunch that I think we could position ourselves with people who understand both how university labs and businesses work and how they need to get things out and commercialized more quickly.
It is by creating that bond that I think we can begin to crack this nut. They're certainly a component of that very difficult puzzle.