Yes, absolutely.
It is more difficult. In fact, the councils do very good work and the boards do very good work, but they each do it for their own organization. Of course, there is some concerted effort, because everyone is in Ottawa and we work together for the common good, but there is no comprehensive strategy to guide their actions.
For example, if you look at talent development, it's partly done by all the councils, but the Canada Foundation for Innovation is also involved in it, to some extent. There's also Mitacs, as well as parapublic groups that support different missions, but there's no overarching strategy to guide their actions.
The capstone organization wanted to remedy that, but there was also the idea of creating the Science and Innovation Council and launching a national strategy for science, research and innovation, in order to set common goals that might be, for example, the goals mentioned by my fellow witnesses. A national strategy could identify cross-cutting goals and ensure that the various organizations, whether unified or not, can achieve those goals.