I think it differs across each of the nations in the alliance. Some of them are more mature in the innovation ecosystems that they have developed, but some of them are leaning very far forward.
Poland just initiated and affiliated with NATO DIANA the Living Lab, which they've just opened in Gdansk, where they're trying to bring innovators together in a central spot where end-users can access and try the products that are there.
Do they see innovation as part of their direction going forward with the capabilities of their defence forces—and not just defence, but security writ large? Absolutely, they do.