Yes, and I'll go back to a comment that was made by the original witness, Karn.
I don't think there's an innovation or an ideas problem, but there is an adoption problem. Pulling those solutions through to actually get them into the hands of the end-users is where the real challenge exists.
I wouldn't say that Canada is unique in that problem. We see it all across the alliance. What I do see, though, within Canadian defence, is a degree of enthusiasm to try new approaches.
As I say, Canada was the first to leverage the rapid adoption service regulation. We are the most active in that space in terms of how many contracts are tendered, those that are in progress and indications of interest, so I think that on the Canadian side, there is a significant degree of interest.
In the staffing of NATO DIANA writ whole, 21% of international civilians within our NATO DIANA are Canadian, four of the seven—