Once again, I think the key data are some of the things I've said to this point. I would also say that IRAP's economic analysis—which they've done—validates that we get about a five-dollar return on every dollar that's invested through the program and that it supports 13,000 jobs.
I don't want to quote specific companies, but I think pretty much any company that 10 years ago you didn't know who they were and now you know who they are, likely, in most cases, worked with IRAP in the very early stage when the support they received was pivotal to whether they could proceed or not. In some cases, if they couldn't have turned to us at a stage where it's the highest risk, where people stepping in to invest is very risky.... I think it's a program that does a lot to set us up to have opportunity to grow.
There's a whole question about what you need to sustain capital, to sustain the growth process and to have the right support for that and the right system. These are questions that you could ask other folks who come before the committee. I think the question is on how IRAP is very much focused on doing its job well, as part of this overall system, to create opportunities for very small firms to grow and then make real gains in the time they work with us.