Thanks for bringing that up about cultural leaders and cultural knowledge, in a way, having the expertise. There is some movement to be looking at recognizing the knowledge that exists through oral traditions and through other knowledge that does not exist outside of place knowledge and those systems. It's actually different perspectives and different knowledge. It can also bring with it a lot of changes and understandings.
There are ways to look at the impact in community and how these people are recognized in community. Many of the people who have this knowledge may not have traditional education, but they are respected for their knowledge because they are knowledge-keepers, etc. There are many other ways of looking more broadly at things. The indigenous leadership circle in research, which is a national body, and the reference group for the appropriate review of indigenous research are both bodies that are looking closely at those types of ways.