Evidence of meeting #15 for Status of Women in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was real.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Florence Ievers  Coordinator, Status of Women Canada
Jackie Claxton  Director General, Women's Programs and Regional Operations, Status of Women Canada

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

You'd have to put that question to the Minister.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Yes. My understanding, since you say that...

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Excuse me, Ms. Mourani. A point of order has been raised by Ms. Smith.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

There are a few comments that have been put on the record here today. One was about the advocacy question, and there were other things about the budget. Maria Minna said that the voice of Canadian women has been shut down because the advocacy has been shut down.

On a point of order, I want to indicate that the people who are answering these questions now are officials, not the minister. They're doing a great job, but as Ms. Ievers has just pointed out, things are just starting to get settled and organized. At this time to make a statement like I heard earlier.... The minister is not shutting down the voice of Canadian women; she is trying to make sure that problems are solved, and to promote the voice of women in Canada.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you, Ms. Smith.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Just hear me out for a minute, Madam Chair.

So when we listen to all these different questions, I think it might be unfair--

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

I'm not sure that's a point of order, Ms. Smith.

I will ask Ms. Ievers if she can respond quickly. I think that will be our last question and answer session.

Ms. Ievers.

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

Yes, I will continue.

The $5 million budget cut will apply starting next April 1st to future years.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Will it be $5 million a year?

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

Five million dollars will be cut from Status of Women Canada's operating budget.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Do you mean every year?

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

We're still talking about the same $5 million.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

So, when the Treasury Board Secretariat talks about $5 million over a two-year period, that is not in fact correct.

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

Some cuts announced by the Treasury Board apply to the current and the next fiscal years. The cuts do not apply to us this year. They will only come into effect starting on April 1st.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I see.

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

That's why we are not in a position to give you the details today. That work remains to be done.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

So, when the Minister says she consulted with you about the $5 million cut, that is not actually true. You say there will be a $5 million cut, but you don't know yet where it will be made. Is that correct?

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

What the Minister is saying is that in the next few years, we will be working with her to determine how the $5 million in cuts will be made. That's what she said.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

That means that the $5 million cut that has been announced is a figure taken out of thin air and that, in actual fact, it has not yet been determined where the cuts will be made. Is that correct?

12:45 p.m.

Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Florence Ievers

That's a question you should put to the Minister.

12:45 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

To the Minister? Yes. That's a very good question to put to her.

Madam Chair, you interrupted me.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

The department has not had the opportunity, given that the announcement was recent, to decide where those cuts are going to be. They will spend the next several months or weeks, whatever it takes, defining how they will meet their budgetary restrictions. So the department can't answer those questions because they haven't made that decision.

12:50 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I was interrupted. Could the witness be given a chance to answer my question with respect to the Women's Program?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

No.

12:50 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

No? I also asked a question about the program, namely when the new criteria would go into effect.