I don't have those specific figures, but surely we could find them.
There would be a huge expense, obviously, to the taxpayers and to the unions. Gisèle would certainly know from the Bell Canada case.
In our office, one of the executive assistants to our president was an EA at the time. She had come out of the old Communication Workers of Canada and was on the stand for 18 months. That's no small amount of money for lawyers.
So it's a huge cost. It's a huge cost for the union. It's a huge cost for the taxpayer who's paying for the employer to stop this. Or, quite frankly, if you have your service with Bell Canada, you're paying for them to fight it.
But think about what the cost is for each of those women. It's sinful. It's absolutely sinful that those women weren't going to get paid. And as Gisèle said, many of them died. How long do we have to wait?