There hasn't been a summit. What there has been is a series of discussions across the country.
We're saying it's time for us as a society to get together and have a summit around the question of pensions, to be able to deal with how we are going to improve the retirement security for all Canadians, to make sure it's fair all across. And people have to be included in that discussion.
Quite frankly, there will be people who will want to, either directly or through representatives, be able to tell some of the stories like the one about the person Joel mentioned, who is getting $400 as a payout—that's it, for however many years.
We don't want to have closed-door discussions in various places. What we want to do is bring people together, if we really want to do something about the Canada Pension Plan, OAS, and private pension plans.