Yes, I think you asked the question of us as well, the question of the self-employed. It is our understanding that yes, the self-employed are covered. But again, as Monsieur Dussault has pointed out, it's on the basis of declared earnings.
I'm glad that Mr. Braniff raised the question of the summit. I think if there are other reasons we need to look at in terms of the self-employed, that's why we need a summit. We need to be bringing together not just governments but also women's organizations, trade unions, groups that represent immigrants, equality-seeking people, so we can have a real discussion about who needs to benefit from the pension plan and how we can all do it together.