Thank you, Madam Chair.
I want to pick up on a few points--high-level, mid-level, and then down to some specifics.
I think Mr. Desnoyers' point about societal choice is important. We're talking about women and pensions, but I don't think there's a member of Parliament who doesn't have constituents call...people with disabilities, children. There are many, many needs, and at the end of the day the government's job is a balancing act. If I had my druthers, I'd be saying to support many things. There are many, many needs.
But we also need to ensure that we create opportunities and jobs within our system. It's a very difficult balancing act, and it will always be hard to get that right.
We're here to talk specifically about pensions and women. I know that the parliamentary secretary has worked for a number of months on this. That's not to say that summits don't have their value. When you travel from coast to coast, into communities, meeting with different organizations, we can't say that doesn't have incredible value. But many people can't travel to summits, and when you have a group of people who go to open themselves up to listen....
He's putting together the plan. I understand we're going to have a look at that, and I'm looking forward to it. Certainly he has heard the things we're hearing today. Everyone is aware of these pension plans that have run into bankruptcy and the incredibly horrific circumstances it puts people into. I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't feel that pain.
What I would really like to get into, though—and Ms. Cameron has been fairly quiet here.... We have federal jurisdiction; we have provincial jurisdiction. My first question is on whether there are similar settings. I'm pleased, but surprised, to have the Bloc taking this very national approach to this issue and looking at a national solution. I think they're more regularly concerned in terms of that provincial jurisdiction.
But you talked about 12%. Could you tell me how it looks with the different provinces?