It is somewhat systemic.
Ms. Penner, we're both from Manitoba, where we have a shortage of skilled labourers, and we brought in a lot of new Canadians to help fill that shortage. In Winkler and the surrounding areas, the Chamber of Commerce has identified one of the main problems as a shortage of skilled labour. They have partnered with the school divisions, so that high school kids who aren't going to university will go on the trades track. After they get through grade 12, they actually have the first part of their ticket. We find that the majority of young women are choosing the cosmetology route, which is fine. It is interesting to know why they're choosing that as opposed to the trades.
I have a 15-year-old daughter, and it's the same sort of thing. She was forced to go to a presentation on women in non-traditional roles, but she did not seem at all interested in it. I think we have to accept that some girls just aren't going to be interested.
A previous presenter was here and talked about the need for more women role models, so that young women can see that they can do it, can see what a woman looks like in a non-traditional role. I think you are a role model, and that is important. I appreciate your being here and telling your story.
Did you have a role model before you got into the construction business?