Oh, thank you very much.
Just previous to you ladies being here, we had another set of witnesses. One of the things they said was that when you look at the entire program, you see that women collect more than they pay in. I didn't have a chance to ask them about this, but from the information I have, typically it's more women who access parental-type benefits. Overall, then, women are net benefactors of the EI program.
To go back to my first question, when we look at the entire program on a financial level, how do we then say that part-time people who are not paying in, or that people who don't pay in at all, should be receiving benefits? How do we--