Evidence of meeting #7 for Status of Women in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clément.

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Suzanne Clément  Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada
Havelin Anand  Director General, Women's Program and Regional Operations Directorate, Status of Women Canada
Theresa Weymouth  National Coordinator, Education Program, Canadian Auto Workers Union
Kathleen Lahey  Faculty of Law, Queen's University, As an Individual

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Pursuant to Standing Orders 110 and 111, we have a certificate of nomination of Suzanne Clément to the position of coordinator, which was referred to the committee on Thursday, March 4, 2010. As you well know, the committee has 30 days within which to deal with this issue, so we are just within our timeframe.

We have present today, Suzanne Clément, coordonnatrice, chef d'agence Bureau de la coordonnatrice. We have Havelin Anand, director general of the women's program and regional operations directorate. And we have Cindy Paquette, director of the corporate services directorate.

We have the CV, and I hope all the members have it, which was sent to us by the minister's office in keeping with the rules.

We will give Madame Clément 10 minutes within which to present with regard to the position of coordinator. Then we will open it up to questions and answers.

3:30 p.m.

Suzanne Clément Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll give copies of my notes for the interpreters.

I welcome this opportunity today to introduce myself to the members of this committee and to respond to questions you may have regarding my experience, skills and vision as the newly appointed coordinator at Status of Women Canada as of December 14, 2009.

I am a graduate of the University of Ottawa in political science. I have been a member of the public service of Canada for over 30 years. I've occupied a wide range of executive-level positions in that time, for over 20 years, in areas of horizontal policy initiatives, directing large national contribution programs, strategic communications, and in key liaison roles, such as corporate secretary.

I'm very honoured to have been given this new responsibility and I intend to carry out the duties of my position to the utmost of my abilities and experience. I am also very pleased to be working with the team at Status of Women Canada.

As you all know, our mandate is to achieve equality for women. It is to promote the full participation of women in the economic, social, and democratic life of Canada, in particular by removing barriers for women and for women to participate fully in the economy and our society.

Moving the equality agenda forward is a shared responsibility. Our minister and many of her predecessors have pointed out, many times, that it is not something that any single department or agency of government can achieve on its own. It requires the establishment of solid partnerships and collaboration with a wide range of stakeholders within and outside of government. This includes working with other federal departments and agencies and other levels of government, as well as non-governmental organizations, voluntary sector organizations, and the private sector.

One of my key goals over the coming months and years is to strengthen the influence of Status of Women Canada to strategically advance, in line with our raison d'être, the status of women and girls. We also have a significant role to ensure broader gender considerations are understood and taken into account in federal legislation, policies and programs. I want to build on the work done over the past decades and increase our capacity to influence priority setting at different levels.

In more concrete terms, I want to ensure that we, as an organization, are sitting at the right tables and at the right moment, to influence key recommendations and decisions being made, especially when these decisions can affect the status of women and girls.

Across federal organizations, I want our work to positively influence and challenge what others do, especially on government-wide initiatives and priorities. Given our unique perspectives on a wide range of issues affecting women and girls, and the types of networks we have forged over the years, I see Status of Women Canada as a facilitator and an incubator of ideas to move issues forward. I see our organization helping to bring the right players to the same table. I also see us contributing to the quality of information and analysis needed to make informed decisions.

Gender-based analysis represents one of the most important processes to influence priority setting and funding decisions to support gender equality. But as the standing committee has pointed out over the years, and as the Auditor General found in the spring 2009 audit, GBA has been unevenly implemented across government since 1995.

Building on the GBA action plan, which was tabled with the public accounts committee, I intend to widely promote the use of GBA and its integration into institutional processes. Work is well under way in many departments and agencies. I see Status of Women Canada playing a leadership role and a challenge function, and providing our federal partners with the advice and support they need to achieve results.

I will also continue to work with other GBA champions, in particular those in the three central agencies, to further develop our understanding and expertise of how gender-based analysis is best implemented and monitored.

At the program level, I want to make sure we are effective in achieving our objectives through the grants and contributions program under the Women's Community Fund and the Women's Partnership Fund. In the short couple of months since my arrival at Status of Women Canada, I have already witnessed the high level of interest and commitment of the NGO community across Canada to work with us in removing barriers to women's full participation in Canadian society.

Given that many of the issues women and girls face are horizontal in nature, we will continue to develop partnerships and leverage the efforts of other departments, levels of government, NGOs, and the private sector in the delivery of our programs.

Over the years, I have gained a solid understanding of the machinery of government and of how the decision-making process functions. I have also been placed in positions where I had to play a convening role and work across government departments to advance key files. I know that I can build on my experience and skills to fulfill my current duties.

In regards to values and ethics, I can assure the members that I adhere to the public service competencies expected of a head of agency, which include a commitment to excellence, accountability, and service with integrity and respect.

Thank you for allowing me this brief presentation. I am at your service.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much, Madame Clément.

We will begin our questioning. As you know, the first round of questions is seven minutes, and it includes questions and answers.

Committee members, as you know, you are here to assess whether you agree or believe that Madame Clément is fit, because of her academic background, her experience, etc., to fulfill this very important role. You may ask her questions with regard to that, to policies, or to things that have to do with the mandate she is going to be asked to fulfill.

It is out of order to ask her questions with regard to her personal...belonging to any political party, to what her personal donations to parties are. You are to stick only to the qualifications and competence, and to the duties and her ability to fulfill those duties.

So begin, Ms. Simson.

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

And thank you, Ms. Clément, for returning. You were here earlier, but we didn't get a chance to talk to you at that time.

I'll get right down to it. I visited the Status of Women's website--and that outlines the mandate of the agency quite beautifully--but neither I nor my staff have been able to access any type of job description for the position of coordinator.

Your opening statement went a long way towards letting us know what you wanted to do with the job. On the other hand, is there a formal job description? If so, could you provide the committee with a brief overview of what the coordinator role entails, and of any particular skill set you will be bringing to the role that will enhance the agency?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

The selection process for this position is not the traditional process whereby a position is advertised with a profile, but I can tell you what I know are the responsibilities and the roles of the position. There is certainly the responsibility of meeting the government's objective in the delivery of the grants and contributions programs. It's delivering on the results of the programs but also ensuring that all the accountability measures and all the requirements under the Financial Administration Act are respected in the delivery of that program. There is also the responsibility of ensuring you are the accounting officer for the full budgetary allocation of Status of Women Canada, so the full amount of $30 million approximately. For the agency, I have to ensure I have the proper financial systems in place to be able to respond to the use of those funds and the properties.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Ultimately you are held accountable.

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

Absolutely.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

For that $30 million budget?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

Yes, absolutely.

Another area of responsibility is the implementation of gender-based analysis across the federal government. A third area of responsibility is to gather information that will allow us to make informed decisions to assist our colleagues across federal departments and agencies and other organizations and institutions in Canada to make informed decisions about the situation.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

And that's across the country?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

Yes, that's right.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

So pretty much like a little CEO, as it were, for the agency?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

It is, yes.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

With respect to carrying out that mandate, how effective do you believe the agency is going to be now as we go forward fulfilling the mandate and doing what it is that you want to get done, that you see as a goal, in light of the government's decision to close 12 out of the 16 regional offices? If it's a cross-country effort, 12 out of 16 is a fairly high percentage, wouldn't you say?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

The answer to that would be on how effective the 16 are to begin with, and I'm not going to try to evaluate or answer to a decision the government has made. But I know that having an office--

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Excuse me just one second. You had absolutely no input into that decision?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

None at all? So you're not consulted. Okay.

Would that normally be a part of the role of the coordinator, to give some feedback on a decision?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

Possibly, if it's requested. But I wasn't there at the time, so I wouldn't be able to respond to that.

But to respond generally about regional offices, because I've managed many regional grants and contribution programs and other types of programs, when I was secretary general of the National Transportation Agency, we were responsible for the delivery of all the subsidies across the country.

If you don't have a critical mass within an office, enough personnel, you're not providing a better service because of proximity. You need to be able to have enough people working together in an office to ensure you have an expertise, that you have training opportunities and a transfer of knowledge.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

But this represents 75% of the offices, which I would suggest is a fairly high percentage.

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

But I've looked into the historical information, and I think some of those offices were down to one person. So to have one person in a location wouldn't necessarily create a better service.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

When you say “some”, how many? You said some maybe have one person.

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

I think there were two offices. I don't have the specific information. I'm sure we can get that.

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Michelle Simson Liberal Scarborough Southwest, ON

Would you be able to provide that at some point?

3:40 p.m.

Coordinator, Head of Agency, Office of the Coordinator, Status of Women Canada

Suzanne Clément

Certainly, the numbers. Yes.