Evidence of meeting #12 for Status of Women in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was older.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Vanessa Bevilacqua  Adviser, Advocacy, Réseau FADOQ
Bonnie Brayton  National Executive Director, DisAbled Women's Network of Canada

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

We've accommodated the last two times, actually, when you weren't here.

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An hon. member

Thank you so much--

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

All right.

Ms. Boutin-Sweet.

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An hon. member

[Inaudible--Editor]

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NDP

Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet NDP Hochelaga, QC

Can I ask for a recorded division? I am asking.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Excuse me. I'm sorry, Ms. Bateman.

I'm sorry. What did you want to vote on, Madam?

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Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I have a point of order, Madam Chair. You do have to recognize a point of order--

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Yes.

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Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

You used to be on my committee.

Thanks, Madam Chair. The fact of the matter is that Ms. Freeman was totally right. There are two rounds: seven minutes on that side, five minutes on this side. All we have to do is start the five minutes on this side, starting with the government side, and we're good to go. Then Ms. Brayton can leave.

So let's just get going on it.

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Is that agreeable with the committee? You won't be able to—

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An hon. member

It doesn't--

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Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

That was done in the resolution at the first meeting.

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Conservative

Joy Smith Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

There's a procedure, Madam Chair.

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Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

It's a procedure. It's not a votable thing.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Point of order--

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Just a moment, please--

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

No, point of order--

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

I'm conferring with the clerk. One moment, please.

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

But on a point of order, neither the clerk, nor the chair, nor Madam Boutin-Sweet was here when this committee sat and determined exactly what the round was. We took pretty well two complete meetings to do that. Now, in fairness to the new chair, the new clerk, and the new members, it's not reasonable that you would know that, but time was invested by this committee.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Thank you very much.

Would you just give me two minutes to talk to the clerk for clarification?

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Conservative

Joyce Bateman Conservative Winnipeg South Centre, MB

Well, you only have two minutes, Madam Chair.

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Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Madam Chair, I have that in front of me, since no one here has it.

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NDP

Mylène Freeman NDP Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

I was here when we did this. The way it works is that there are rounds, right? We do seven, seven, seven, and seven minutes, and then after that it's five, five.... But we aren't going to get five, so we want to split it.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

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NDP

The Chair NDP Irene Mathyssen

Excuse me. I cannot hear. I would ask the indulgence of the committee so that I can confer with the clerk, please. Thank you very much.

All right. Thank you. In an effort to be fair and allow everyone a chance to have the witness of Ms. Brayton, I tried to suggest a compromise. Clearly that is not of interest to the committee--