Evidence of meeting #74 for Status of Women in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nations.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jody Wilson-Raybould  Regional Chief, British Columbia, Assembly of First Nations
Robert Louie  Chairman, First Nations Lands Advisory Board, and Chief, Westbank First Nation
Jeffrey Cyr  Executive Director, National Association of Friendship Centres
Kim van der Woerd  Board Member, Metro Vancouver, Young Women's Christian Association

12:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

I think we have a point of order here from Madam Bennett.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

I would like the member to at least stop now and bring us closer to what would be the appropriate time. That means that the time has not even been divided equally between the opposition and the government.

12:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

I hear your point, Madam Bennett. You know the rules and we have those rules installed so that we each have seven minutes, and this is the round that is installed in this committee.

The more time we take now, the less time you will have for your questions, so I suggest we continue.

Is there any—

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

We did assume there would be time on both sides when we agreed to divide it equally.

12:25 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

We can look in the blues. What I said is that we would extend our meetings 15 minutes and divide the time in half between the witnesses. That brings us to 12:30.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

At no time did we think that the government should have more time than the opposition.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

It is about the time we gave to this committee to hear those witnesses.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

But Madam Chair, we expect you to impose some fairness on this committee and to make that crystal clear before you give the government more time than the opposition. The purpose of committee is to hold the government and the government bill to account, not to have cheerleading from the other side.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

I hear what you're saying, and I'm in the hands of the committee. We have some rules. If we want to change those rules, we need a motion and we need a vote on it. I haven't heard a motion yet. Is it a point of order from this side?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON

It is a point of order.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

We'll turn to your point of order.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I want to point out to the member opposite, Ms. Bennett, that the official opposition in this committee is actually the NDP. Representation by the questions that we have in this committee is based on the number of members at this committee. Right now, as you can see, the government has more members. As you pointed out very clearly on our original guidelines for this committee, this is the rotation.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

Sorry, Madam James. You can continue.

I hear no point of order so far. If you have a point of order, come to it please.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON

I was helping clarify your point as well that the guidelines for this committee were set at the start of this committee, and I respect that the member is not actually a member of this committee.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

Thank you, Madam James. I need no help in clarifying my decision.

Is there any other point of order?

Madam Crowder, go ahead.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Perhaps it's too late at this stage, but I want to support Ms. Bennett's statement.

Normally, committees look for a balance in the questioning of witnesses. Perhaps we naively assumed that there would be some fairness. This is not a criticism of the chair. When we were dividing the time half and half, half the questions would go to the government and half the questions would go to the opposition. Yes, we are the official opposition, but it's important that the opposition has two turns in questioning the witnesses.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

What I can do from your point of order is to see if I have the unanimity of the committee to extend the seven-minute round of Madam Bennett, which will cut seven minutes from our other witness group.

Do I have the unanimous consent of the committee?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON

No.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

I see that I don't have the unanimous consent of the committee, so I cannot change the rules that are in front of us.

Is that another point of order, Madam Crowder?

12:30 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Yes, Madam Chair.

I wonder if the committee would entertain, at least in the next round, that we reduce the questioning round to five minutes so that there are opportunities for two members of the opposition to get on the record for questions.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

I hear that we try to come to an agreement to have more fairness, to make sure we hear each party for this period of time. To make sure we hear everyone, do I have unanimous consent to have a five-minute question round for the next round? If we still have time, we can maybe go back to the government for the time left.

Is that an agreement we can come to?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

No, we're not changing times half way through this thing. I would make a motion that we return to the witnesses.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

You cannot have a motion. I'm just looking for unanimity right now.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Susan Truppe Conservative London North Centre, ON

Okay. No, we don't. I'm sorry.

12:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe

There's no unanimity so far to change the timeline and the time for the turns. I'm sorry about that.

We will now go back to Madam James. You still have 45 seconds.