It's still early, but those are very valuable programs. The challenge there is that when you go into the schools and you go into the different industries, they're actually not aware of those programs, so there's not enough profiling of those programs. Even the OYAP program, the Ontario youth apprenticeship program, is out there specifically. The YWCA is active, but we're not getting the message through the industry. We're not engaging the industry enough to get them to participate. We need a strong, active commitment from the industry employers to get engaged in this process and to hire on.
On May 5th, 2015. See this statement in context.