Thank you.
My second question is for Ms. Franz-Odendaal.
It relates back to the NSERC research chairs and the targets of 30% that we're looking at as a government. Even that is low. Half the universities across Canada, it appears, can't even achieve half that target. We need some drastic measures. What do you specifically recommend that the federal government could do to change this immediately?
We heard earlier about the Ph.D.s, the tenures, and the challenges of a more corporate university that seems to impede women even further as chairs or at the Ph.D. level. What recommendations would you have specifically for the federal government to change this immediately, without imposing quotas?