I can comment on the crown side of it. When we were doing this community court project, just getting a crown, for instance, to agree to work with us in this way was tremendously difficult, which speaks volumes to the crown's willingness to actually make a positive impact. We had evidence that shows it actually does deter crime and helps communities, and we couldn't find a crown who was willing to jump on board.
I think there's a strong disconnect between what's really happening, what needs to be done, and what the crowns feel is a proper administration of justice. Honestly, most of them had no interest in these community courts or even in looking at these issues.