Status of Women Committee on Nov. 25th, 2024

[Andréanne Larouche, Bloc, Shefford, QC]

Madam Chair, we are still debating the motion. We have another study scheduled, and we haven't even finished this study. We also have to spend time on reports. It is 1:05.

I may have opted to hold the study, because we have a meeting scheduled. A study is already under way at the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security. We'll see how that turns out.

Our calendar is already pretty full. We have enough work to last us until Christmas. Can we discuss the study being proposed when we come back in January? It can be on the list of potential future studies. A lot can happen between now and January, so I suggest we finish the work currently on our calendar, which is already quite full.

This study could be added to the list of proposals. The subcommittee could discuss all this. If the committee does do a study, I'll have to come up with a list of potential witnesses. It's 1:05, and I didn't have time to properly consider the proposed amendment.

I propose we refer the debate on future studies to the subcommittee. We can discuss this then.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

We will go to Michelle and then to Pam.

[Michelle Ferreri, Conservative, Peterborough—Kawartha, ON]

I have a suggestion to do them concurrently. One of the issues that also came up when I was in Grand Valley was coercive control within the prison, between inmates. It was also a major issue that I could see us overlapping with the 2SLGBTQ+ study. I'm wondering if there's an appetite to do them concurrently.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

Next we have Pam and then Leah.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Thanks.

I know we're short on time. I agree with Madame Larouche that we need to finish the work that's already been approved, which means that we're going to do gender-based violence and femicide, and the LGBTQ2S+ community study. We will get those reports done, and then we can do this really important study.

I don't think this would preclude finishing what we're already doing. There's nothing in the motion on it. That's why I added “following the conclusion of” the next study. I'm going to leave the amendment as is, but the intention is certainly that we will finish the work that's on the table.

It would be in the new year, I would suspect, before we're able to get to witnesses on this study.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

Go ahead, Leah.

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

I'm of the same mind, that we finish what's on the calendar and that it happens after the 2SLGBTQ+ study.

I don't think we should run it at the same time. The study on the mother-child program is very fragile and sensitive, particularly for communities that are more highly represented in the justice system. I think it's important that we are trauma-informed and sensitive when we're doing that study, and that it happen all at once after the 2SLGBTQ+ study.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

Thank you.

I think we're landed there.

At this point, I would like to thank our officials....

[An hon. member]

We should vote.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

We should vote. I was just making the assumption that we had happy heads.

All in favour...as amended?

Thank you.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

I'm sorry, but were we voting on the amendment first? Now we have to vote on the motion as amended.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

Let's try this.

All in favour of the amendment as presented?

(Amendment agreed to)

All in favour of the amended motion?

(Motion as amended agreed to)

I'm going to start again by thanking our officials. I certainly appreciate your testimony for the study today.

I remind members on your way out that the Wednesday time slot will be an informal meeting with a delegation of women from the Ukrainian parliament, and the second half will be the remaining GBV witnesses. Information will be going out for everyone today or tomorrow. Are there any questions?

Go ahead, Pam.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Is the National Police Federation coming on Wednesday?

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

I would have to check.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

It was on the witness list. I think I put it in as well as someone else.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

It includes the ombudsperson.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

No, I meant the National Police Federation.

[The Chair, Conservative, Shelby Kramp-Neuman]

I'll check, once I adjourn.

The meeting is adjourned.