Leslie, if I can follow up on what you're saying, one thing we also need to acknowledge is that the leadership and middle management of these companies are predominately still white men. When you think about trying to make any systemic changes within these corporations, on the ground level, you don't have individuals working in those areas who can actually bring the intel of the indigenous experience. What we're really trying to do is to mesh water and oil together.
I think that needs to be acknowledged. Unless there's some promotion of leadership within these corporations, it's very difficult for me to imagine what change would look like there.