It's a bit of a trade-off between the two. I see.
I've already put the question to Mr. Brochet, and I'll put it to you, Mr. Michel. I know I'm asking you to walk on eggshells, but I have to ask you this. To what extent do you think the increase in the crime rate can be attributed to the changes resulting from Bill C‑5 and Bill C‑75? The numbers are staggering. I have quite a few of them. It's unbelievable.
We talked about the case of Gabie Renaud a little while ago. This woman's ex-spouse committed some 20 offences and was charged 16 times for failing to comply with his conditions. It's incomprehensible.