Evidence of meeting #22 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was noise.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Harry Gow  Founding President, Transport 2000 Canada
Phil Benson  Lobbyist, Teamsters Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Mark D'Amore

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I have that actually on my agenda for tomorrow for the subcommittee, so it will be there.

Mr. Laframboise.

5:40 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

I would like to make a clarification, Mr. Chair. I would like to specify that we would “summon” Mr. Duchesneau and Mr. Cherry to appear on Thursday November 9, not merely “invite”.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes, and when I said “invite”, I said a stronger word. I'll use “summon” to clarify it.

So the motion is on the floor from Mr. Laframboise that we summon Mr. Ducheneau....

Mr. Hubbard.

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

The minister is probably a very busy person. I know in committee work in the past it's always been difficult for a minister to fit his time in with the committee's time. By voting this way, we certainly are limiting the possibility of the minister coming.

So I would say you should be cautious in all due respects in passing this, because then we have the minister literally boxed in by what we're doing, and I don't think it's fair to the minister or fair to this committee that we're....

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Unfortunately, we're talking about a motion that isn't on the floor. We're talking about something that is out there, and I think we have to deal with Mr. Laframboise's motion.

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

But the motion, Mr. Chair, is that the 9th of November will be taken up by...which means that the minister will not have that date available to him if he wants to come. That causes me--

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Julian, last point.

5:40 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, I think what we're doing is making a summons de comparaître, but we are not excluding having other sessions on Thursday. So we are still allowing some flexibility for the reason that Mr. McGuinty mentioned, and potentially for Tuesday as well.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Can I call the question now? All those in favour of Mr. Laframboise's motion that we summon Mr. Ducheneau and Mr. Cherry to appear before the committee on Thursday the 9th of November at 3:30?

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I move for a recorded vote.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay, go ahead.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 10, nays 1)

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Now I would like to ask if Wednesday, tomorrow, from 1 p.m. to 2 p.m., the subcommittee would be available to plan the next part of the schedule beyond the clause-by-clause and the motions that have been put on the floor that we've approved that we have to schedule.

Mr. Laframboise.

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

I agree that we should meet tomorrow. Will the parliamentary secretary be present?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I think he's supposed to be somewhere else.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

Andy Scott Liberal Fredericton, NB

I appreciate the interest the members opposite have in making sure we honour and support Mr. Laframboise; however, it shouldn't be at the expense of having the minister appear before the estimates are deemed.

Whatever flexibility will be required of this committee to entertain the minister on the estimates.... I don't care when you have the meeting, but we have to meet the minister before we deem the estimates. Ultimately it takes the power away from the committee to speak to the estimates if they are deemed reported as they stand.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The subcommittee will meet tomorrow at 1 o'clock for one hour. The clerk will find a room for us. Please book your schedules for that one hour.

If Mr. Jean can't be available--

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I'll be there.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Then it's agreed.

Mr. Laframboise.

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

Perhaps Mr. Jean could confirm by tomorrow afternoon whether the minister is available at that time. It would be easier that way.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I'm sure Mr. Jean will check that out for us.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Since there's only one Conservative, we could entertain all kinds of motions and all kinds of things.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I adjourn the meeting.