Well, Mr. Easter, there are a couple of issues there, I suppose.
First of all, what it actually costs for the railway to maintain the cars is really unknown. Whether the railway has truly gouged the farmer or not, I'm not prepared to say. However, we do know that private shops throughout North America could have maintained those cars for a much lower price. As a result, farmers have overpaid and they have paid substantially. For the federal government fleet, we estimate $40 million per year, if you look at adding the Wheat Board and the other provincial governments' fleet. That's a substantial amount that has come out of, essentially, the producers' pockets for a long time. I think the FRCC has gone on record as asking the Auditor General to look into that to see, in fact, if the farmers had paid excessively over all that time period.