Evidence of meeting #54 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.
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5 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
Mr. Chairman, could you give me a minute to check on a few points with my researchers? That would also give the other parties an opportunity to ask some questions.
5 p.m.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, I would just like to go back. We have NDP-4.1 that was circulated to the committee.
5 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
It comes right after BQ-10. It's on the same line, but because it came in after....
I guess we are taking a brief moment.
Well, Mr. Jean, fill the air.
5 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Excellent. Thank you very much.
I'd like to talk first of all about my childhood...no.
5 p.m.
An hon. member
He's still living it.
5 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I just want to say that if the members look at it, it is much broader. The difficulty with NDP-4, for instance, is that it talks about air traffic controllers or crew members and not mechanics or other people. Aviation safety includes everybody, from the person turning a wrench to people servicing the aircraft or the engines. I think it's a much broader and better use.
If I can be blunt, this amendment was proposed by one of the unions. We saw the other amendments put forward by the other parties and thought it was much better and more inclusive. It covered a broader spectrum to allow all persons who might suffer from fatigue to be able to have their hours of service limited.
5 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
That is what I am trying to determine.
You put forward amendment G1.1, but according to my researchers, it should have be presented after Bloc amendment BQ-10. I'm just trying to get on track.
5 p.m.
Conservative
5:05 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
Thank you. It is sometimes helpful to have a discussion. I'm going to withdraw BQ-10 and support the government.
Mr. Chairman, I withdraw amendment BQ-10.
5:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Thank you, Mr. Laframboise.
(Amendment withdrawn)
Now we have NDP-4.1.
Mr. Julian.
5:05 p.m.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
As I said earlier, giving us a few minutes to collect our thoughts does bring dividends. In this case I will be withdrawing NDP-4.1.
5:05 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Thank you.
NDP-4.1 has not been moved and can't be withdrawn.
Next is BQ-11 on page 27.
Mr. Laframboise.
5:10 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
On lines 19 to 21 on page 8 of the bill, after the words "aeronautical equipment", we would add: "and on the part of providers of services relating to aeronautics, and the". So we would remove the following words: "on the part of organizations designated under subsection 5.31(1)".
5:10 p.m.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
May I please stand this amendment? My amendment is conditional on the future of the designated organizations, and we have not yet studied that issue.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
I have no problem with it. I will advise the committee that BQ-11 and NDP-5 are identical.
Mr. Julian, are you comfortable with that? We will move to that next.
5:10 p.m.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Laframboise is saying that it's consequential, and I certainly agree with him on that.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
Then we'll revert to it immediately.
(Clause 8 allowed to stand)
(Clauses 9 to 11 inclusive agreed to)
(On clause 12)
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This is in response to ALPA. The witnesses we heard suggested this would be good. There was a specific request from them to limit the designated organizations so they didn't include activities involving the air transportation of fare-paying passengers. So that's where this amendment comes from. It would deal with BQ-12 and NDP-7.1, which you may want to consider at the same time or immediately subsequent to it.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
I want to advise the committee that there is a line conflict with BQ-12, LIB-5, NDP-6, BQ-13, NDP-7, and NDP-7.1. So if G-2 is adopted we will not be able to bring these amendments forward.
Mr. Bélanger.