Evidence of meeting #55 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sms.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Liberal
Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
Given everything else that's been amended and brought forward and that is coming--that's the key there, that is coming--and given these two initiated by the government, I'd be prepared to withdraw amendment LIB-6.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Thank you. Amendment LIB-6 is withdrawn, to the excitement of the committee.
Mr. Jean, it's not necessarily procedure, but I noticed that in the document you handed out you were proposing a new subsection 5.31(7) on inspection.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
It would be an appropriate time to deal with it, given--
Conservative
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
We did talk at length about this at the last meeting. The new amendment would be as follows:
The Minister of Transport shall maintain a program for the oversight and surveillance of the aeronautical activities of holders of certificates of designation issued pursuant to subsection (1.1).
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Okay. So this is a new proposed subsection 5.31(7) on inspection.
Is there any comment? Mr. Volpe.
Liberal
Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON
This is an observation more than a comment, Mr. Chairman.
I believe that when this was raised last week for the parliamentary secretary to consider, there were other clauses in discussion that would be covered by this amendment, were it to come. It has come, so I'm wondering whether we are going to have to have a debate on those other amendments that we've deferred as a result of this.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
I would point out for the members that indeed I understand what Mr. Volpe is saying, but my understanding is that this is more of a collaboration of all of the debate issues and the finality of where the members laid themselves on afterwards. But for certain, if the clerk wants to bring them forward....
You know, this is a compromise of all the comments, to be blunt.
Liberal
Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON
I just wanted to draw that to the attention of all committee members, and for you in particular, Mr. Chairman, because I have no interest in repeating the debate of last week on related amendments.
Conservative
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
I want to understand this. Would the government replace its amendment G-2.1 with the new text that was tabled today? Would you replace amendment G-2.1 with the text that you tabled today? No?
Bloc
Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
My understanding is that amendment G-2.1 is still on the table, and that this was in addition to amendment G-2.1. Amendment G-2.1 is very general. This one was specific to designated organizations.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
The question I would have, then, of the government is this. We have a new proposal on inspection. Where does it fit into the bill?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
We're at proposed subsection 5.31(7), the new one, and yet we're referring to amendment G-2.1, which concerns 5.3901.
And while we're at it, on the next page it says, “Approval of Minister of Transport of standards”. I want to know where that fits in too.
Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
I believe I can explain it. If you go to amendment G-2.1, it says:
5.3901 The Minister of Transport shall conduct
--actually, we were told by Justice that it should be “carry out” to keep consistency--
shall carry out inspections of the aeronautical activities of holders of Canadian aviation documents who are required to have a management system.
This is to ensure that when there is an SMS, the minister is still carrying out inspections. This is very general, very generic for SMS organizations. The one we just discussed, proposed subsection 5.31(7), is for designated organizations specifically.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
And again, just for the sake of order as to how it comes in, we have amendment G-2.1 on page 42.1, but we are dealing with all the amendments in the area of proposed section 5.31.
