Evidence of meeting #57 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was employee.
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
His was moved, as I understand, and therefore it's the committee that withdrew it.
Once it's moved, it becomes the property of the committee; it's no longer the property of the mover. It is the property of the mover if it hasn't been moved.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
With respect, Mr. Chair, it's the mover who withdraws the motion, and then there has to be agreement from the committee.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
The mover can suggest it, and then there has to be agreement from the committee, once it's moved. Once it's moved, it's the property of the committee, and the committee decides. The mover agreed to withdraw, and the committee agreed.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Yes, I understand that, Mr. Chair, but that does not mean amendment NDP-12.1.1 has been withdrawn.
We would move to amendment NDP-12.1.1. That is the NDP amendment. Now, given the fact that Mr. Laframboise has signalled that he wouldn't be supporting amendment NDP-12.1.1, I will, as mover, simply not move the motion, but I reserve the right to withdraw, move, or not move any of the NDP amendments that come forward.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
My understanding is that it's within the prerogative of the chair, if the motions are in fact identical and one has been withdrawn, for the chair to rule that the second one in fact does not proceed, but because of the fact that you've agreed not to proceed, let's move on. We're not here to argue the points. Thank you.
(Clause 12 as amended agreed to)
(Clauses 13 to 34 inclusive agreed to)
(On clause 35)
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Now we're on to amendment NDP-12.2.1. We're under the “Administrative penalties”, and we've grouped them.
Go ahead, Mr. Laframboise.
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
I have a point of order. Are we adopting clauses 14, 15, 16 and 17?
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
We just did clause 34.
On page 66.1 is amendment NDP-12.2.1.
Go ahead, Mr. Julian.
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, these amendments in this section--amendments NDP-12.2.1, NDP-12.3, NDP-12.4, NDP-12.5, and NDP-12.6--are designed to toughen penalties in this section of Bill C-6.
What we have here is the option currently that a company can essentially receive a notice of violation without penalty. In other words, you can commit the crime and not do any of the time. It's a bit contradictory with the Conservatives' justice policy, certainly, but what we're endeavouring to do with these amendments is allow for strict penalties around violations to ensure that there is compliance with the law. All the amendments are in that vein.
If members of the committee want, I can move each of them separately or I can move them as a block for discussion; I'll leave that up to you. This is one case, I think, Mr. Chair, in which the amendments do jibe together in such a way that there could be a group discussion.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Okay, we'll deal with them as a block.
Go ahead, Mr. Julian. Is there anything you want to add, or are you ready for discussion?
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Well, hopefully members have read through the amendments, which essentially toughen up the penalties under this legislation.
Conservative
Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB
Very briefly, my understanding is that what the NDP amendment does in relation to all of these clauses is take away any opportunity on a small infraction to warn the certificate holder. Is that, in essence, correct, Mr. Reinhardt?
Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
Yes. I should have said for the record, yes.
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
All right. Then is there any further discussion?
Is it agreeable, then, that a vote on this one, amendment NDP-12.2.1, would apply to all of them as a block? Not the Bloc, but a block. That would apply to amendments NDP-12.3, NDP-12.4, and NDP-12.5.
Conservative
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Okay, if it's agreeable, we can deal with amendment NDP-12.6 as well.
Mr. Julian, is that fine with you?
Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Okay. So the vote will then be, in effect, on those five motions.
(Amendments negatived)
(Clauses 35 to 41 inclusive agreed to)
(On clause 42)
Liberal
Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
I have a point of order, Mr. Chairman. There's also BQ-15 which we're discussing here.