Evidence of meeting #57 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was employee.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, I think if we stood NDP-8.1, we should come back to amendment NDP-8.1.
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Liberal
Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
We can stand NDP-8.1 until we deal with article 2, or section 2, or whatever, and carry on.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, are you now moving to NDP-8.1? Is that your intention?
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
That's correct. It's amendment NDP-8.1.
It says page 44 on the list, but it's apparently not correct. It's on page 39. It's clause 12, line 29, on page 11, replacing line 29 with the proposal.
Mr. Julian.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I move this amendment, Mr. Chair. This is for designated organizations.
Mr. Bélanger is quite right that we need to come back to clause 2 to have the overall discussion
on the scope of the bill. As regards the designated organizations, they are subject to the Canada Labour Code, to the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act, 1992 and the Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board Act.
Essentially, we're simply making sure that designated organizations are covered by those three important pieces of law. It's certainly something that I think all members around this table can agree on.
When there are conflicts, we come back to the issue of to what extent the Labour Code and the other two laws actually carry over. It's only in the case of conflicts. It's certainly not in a general way but in the case of conflicts only.
For the moment, because we're dealing with clause 12, this section deals with designated organizations and making sure they are subject to those three pieces of legislation.
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Okay. I gather it's proposed subsection (6) that you're actually dealing with, on page 11, and you're adding line 29.
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Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
I want us to understand each other. I understand, Peter, but if we want to adopt amendment LIB-2, the act is clearly subject to the Canada Labour Code. I think we're resolving everything. I know that it doesn't hurt to be extra careful. That's why we're adding the Canada Labour Code, but repeating it 20 times is too much. I agree with you.
As regards the other two acts, I would like us to vote on them one by one and to start with the Canada Labour Code. If we agree, that's perfect, but if we don't agree on the others, then that's the way it is. I don't want to engage in needless debate, but I am opposed to Julian's motion because amendment LIB-2 covers everything.
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
Now, at this point, do you want to discuss item 2? We had pushed down BQ-22 and NDP-12.1.1. That's page 64. That's Mr. Laframboise's amendment.
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Bloc
Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
Could we move on to amendment LIB-2 immediately, in view of the fact that we have come to it?
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
But we're still on clause 12 at this point.
If you want, we can stand clause 12 where we are and go back to clause 2 and deal with that, and that may facilitate some of the further discussion.
Is there agreement?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
(Clause 12 allowed to stand)
(On clause 2)
Okay, it's done. We'll go back to clause 2.
Mr. Bélanger.
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Vice-Chair Liberal Don Bell
We're dealing with amendment BQ-6, I presume, at that point, which was moved.
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Liberal
Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
It might be useful to take them in reverse order—I think everyone is sort of agreeable to that—amendment Lib-2 and then the others.
