Evidence of meeting #20 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Stephen Beatty  Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.
Minoru Tanaka  General Manager, Under Body Design Division, Toyota Motor Corporation
Gerard McDonald  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

If we're talking about suppliers to manufacturing, again, I don't have contact with them, so I'm not aware of that communication.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Here is another miscellaneous question.

Has any direction been given or any understanding of any kind subtly conveyed by either Toyota Motor Manufacturing or Toyota Canada to destroy any documents or e-mails or other such evidence or internal correspondence that could point to a Motor Vehicle Safety Act violation or concealment of such from the minister or regulators at Transport Canada?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

No. There's certainly no instruction to do that.

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Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Okay.

In a September meeting last year with Transport Canada officials, you.... I'm referring to an e-mail that was sent from Toyota Canada to Transport Canada, where you were, I think, commending or thanking Transport Canada for the meeting and the information on Transport Canada's work and processes. Was that vital so that you could figure out how to better game the system, Mr. Beatty?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

No. In fact, that meeting was established for the purposes of introducing the entire regulatory staff at Toyota Canada to the Transport Canada officials, with a view to ensuring that there was a full flow of communication on a regular basis between the company and Transport Canada.

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Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

Mr. Chair, if there is any time left, I'll offer it to Mr. Jean.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

There is a minute and a half.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

So what you're telling us today, Mr. Beatty, is that Toyota Canada had no notice of the Europe issue until after January 21 of this year?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

No, that's not true. What I said was that we had not received the TI.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Okay. I'm not interested in a TI.

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

Okay. So--

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I'm interested in when you had notice of the Europe issue here at Toyota Canada, because remember, Toyota Europe owns 50% of Toyota Canada, do they not? The company that owns Toyota Europe owns 50% of Toyota Canada--

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

That's a pretty significant investment for them.

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

Right. So the answer to the question is that we became aware of the situation in Europe with the documentation that we were provided in support of the regulatory filing in Canada.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

When?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

In January.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Before or after January 21?

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Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

Immediately prior to.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

And we're talking of this year?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Okay.

Where are those pedals manufactured, the ones that were faulty in Europe?

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.

Stephen Beatty

In Europe.

10:30 a.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Now you've obviously read the Motor Vehicle Safety Act, which says: “...on becoming aware of a defect in the design, construction or functioning of the vehicle or equipment that affects or is likely to affect the safety of any person, cause notice of the defect to be given...”.

10:30 a.m.

Managing Director, Toyota Canada Inc.